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S5E1: Outcome-Driven Finance 🇬🇧

Marie-Luise Lehmann from Deloitte

Jan 19, 2023

Marie-Luise Lehmann is an executive with over 15 years of experience in the fields of finance and agile transformation. Currently, she’s Chief of Staff to the Deloitte Consulting Germany and EMEA CEO and COO as well as Office Lead for the CxO and Agile Finance Lead.

She’s also the founder of Finance goes agile - a Think Tank for agility and corporate finance in German-speaking countries where she tackles topics such as:

controlling in volatile times sustainable budgeting processes effectiveness and efficiency in finance departments agility and flexibility of the finance function.

She is a regular speaker and author as well as lecturer at the University of Lucerne.

In today’s podcast, we talk about what is the role of Finance and CFOs in steering their companies in times of volatility and uncertainty. We also debunk the myth that Outcome Management and OKRs are not an HR tool, but rather one for better strategy execution.

We challenged the established norms in controlling and finance, stressing the need for agility and flexibility of the finance function especially as more and more companies embrace digital transformation.

We also tackle the up and coming topic of outcome-based finance and outcome-based budgeting.

Finally, we touch on the challenges of making this shift.

Where to find Marie-Louise Lehman:


Where to find Johannes Müller:


Resources on Beyond Budgeting:

A short intro here

Beyond Budgeting Institute.

Resources mentioned on the show:


Managing for Happiness

Beyond Budgeting: How Managers Can Break Free from the Annual Performance TrapThis Is Beyond Budgeting: A Guide to More Adaptive and Human Organizations


WHU Controlling & Management Review


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